"Well, right now it's all boring technical junk. Like just now it was Best Engineered Classical Album." Whatever that means. "Before that it was stuff like art direction and sound mixing. It's not exciting, but it's important to somebody." Obviously, if they were handing out awards for it.

"And it looks good if we at least pretend we care about this stuff. We're not kids anymore, right? If we wanna prove we belong here we need to start cultivating the right image." Jamie is clearly very concerned about this fitting-in thing, and despite the quiet tone of his voice his expression is just about the most earnest it's ever been.